Curse

quickmonty · Dec 07, 2006, 08:22 PM // 20:22

Much too soon to say. I will do as I did with Nightfall .... wait and see and make the decision when the time comes. Or, don't cross bridges until you come to them.

Sir Skullcrasher · Dec 07, 2006, 08:25 PM // 20:25

I don't know, Guild Wars is fun but the fun factor is going down with release of new chapters. Also like many peoples said, the level of interaction with real players is declining. We are now using heroes or henchies to do missions and quests rather than spending time getting a real group for it. I'm going to wait it out and see if Chapter 4 offer anything new gameplay-wise and if there any new improvement that make this game fun again.

natuxatu · Dec 07, 2006, 08:27 PM // 20:27

It is sad that PuG are getting less and less.

Will I buy the next Chapter? Depends on how much I enjoy Spellborn I guess

(or if a new mmo catches my eye) Since GW I've tried D&D:Online and EQ2 but neither kept my interest (especially the first one)

On the flip side DoA requires people to work together more so than not (at least for the time being.) Perhaps if they put less difficult areas in the main story where henchmen were missing (for some reason that fix with the story) then more players would join together.

In short: I'll buy the next Chapter unless another I find another game I enjoy just as much if not more.

Antheus · Dec 07, 2006, 08:27 PM // 20:27

Cry4attention, all of it.

Chapter 4 hasn't been even announced. How many of you will NOT buy Spiral Race and Spiral Race: The Dome City expansion? And let's not forget the #1 game not to buy: Blue Racer. (all those titles may or may not apear in next 50 years).

If you like it, buy it, if not, then don't. But debating about an as of yet unnanounced chapter in past tense in a form that implies it's the chapter that killed GW is silly.

So you won't buy GW. There's lots of people out there like you, and more will join you. And then there's those that will, and more will join them.

This isn't a subscription game. Nobody cares if you do or do not, if you stay or leave. This is why GW works. It doesn't rely on subscription numbers and steady population. It's the secret of GW's success.

But seriously - Whining of highest degree. "I'm not buying something that may or may not be good just because it may or may not be good".

If anyone doesn't buy Chapter 4 on prejudice (btw, what is Chapter 4 about, what will it add, improve, etc.), then you're not a customer anyway. Who cares what you think.

And above all, it all comes down to two things, auction house, and storage, the perpetual whines about something that was never needed. This game isn't about hoarding items or trading loot. This is why they don't add it. Because if that's your only concern (farming), you're not the target market, and never were. Additions to storage will be made when needed, but the future of game doesn't depend on it.

Loviatar · Dec 07, 2006, 08:27 PM // 20:27

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Originally Posted by gabrial heart

PVE + heros isn't as horrible, but i'm pretty sure most people play an online rpg for the player interaction, even if it's a negative one.[/QUOTE]

i disagree and the proof that the majority of playere disagree with the *even a negative experience* is what i want is simple.

there have been few anti hero threads and even those have a bunch of pro hero posts.

also aside from a few *any human contact no matter how bad is better than nothing* players most *as demonstrated by the people who complains own observations* people are welcoming the heroes with open arms saying

*thank you for freeing me from the jerk PUG people*

they have been given a choice and the choice seems clear

heroes FTW

i love my MM and little Barage Ranger supported by my Protective monk

I MP I · Dec 07, 2006, 08:28 PM // 20:28

I doubt I'll be buying chapter 4 or any other future chapters. I'm getting old and loosing interest in video games at this point.

gabrial heart · Dec 07, 2006, 08:29 PM // 20:29

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Originally Posted by countesscorpula

PS I've yet to play Jade Quarry mission. Not cause it's too hard, but because there is no one there. Is it a good mission? Was it fun? If A-net could come up with a way for me to try it out (focus on jade weekend?) it might improve my outlook on the company as a whole. As it stands, it's just an empty outpost... I'm sure that wasn't intended.

Meh, you're not missing much IMO. AB is a lot more fun, even aspenwood is better then jade. When i went for cart title in cantha i had to get the alliance and guild's help just to get a battle going so i could explore the area. Jade was never really that popular even during those "double faction" weekends they had.

birdfoot · Dec 07, 2006, 08:32 PM // 20:32

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

I dont think negative opinion is a bad thing since those are valid.

However i severely dislike people who act like they've been victimized, when in reality its merely a difference between their own unrealistic expectations and the reality that Anet produces.

Yes, very true.

I forgot to add that I think such posts are better done in polls for anonymity. With all the heat going on from the dicsussion, at least eventually we might still see some numbers.

Gwmaster · Dec 07, 2006, 08:41 PM // 20:41

even if im am bored to death and dont play gw as much as before i will buy the next chapter because...well just because.
edit: Birdfoot did i already told you i liked your avatar?

gene terrodon · Dec 07, 2006, 08:43 PM // 20:43

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Originally Posted by Ozric

...I find being in a district of 30-40 people in many of the areas and no one spamming for a pug a greater issue, but I'm obviously in the minority in that view I know. Being forced to hero/hench the game because of this has not been fun to me by any means....

I agree fully. The reason I purchased this "online multiplayer game" is to play with people. If I wanted to run around with a bunch of customized AI bots, I would have purchased an offline RPG.

I am on the fence.
I hate having to hench/hero 70% of the game, that’s not why I bought it.
I missed the days in Tyria and Cantha where you could find a group to do everything...from skill caps, to questing, to missions and green farming. That is now becoming a thing of the past. All the way to HoH, you can play solo...that is just wrong. Why would I want to play in a PvP arena with NPCs?
One human and 5 hench/heroes doesn't count as PvP in my eyes.

I'll buy it if multiplayer gaming, PvE and PvP, are enhanced and wont consider purchasing if they continue down the path to a...lets just say Final Fantasy type RPG. Where it's you and a bunch of bots that you tell what to do.

luinks · Dec 07, 2006, 08:48 PM // 20:48

No I won't buy it

Enchanted Warrior · Dec 07, 2006, 08:52 PM // 20:52

Probably not. One deciding factor is the rampant elitest attitude many have in game now. They act as mean and nasty as they can and think they are cool. Maybe I'm just turning into an old fart who knows, but four letter word barrages, lieing, cheating, bullying etc.. is just getting old. Perhaps that's the state of online games in general. And do not take this as a slam on the younger players, they are fine and well mannered. It's the adults, the "You suck" attitude is so rampant it sickens me. Thank goodness for the addition of heroes, however lng or short my future time in game will be, I won't be wasting my time on forming/joining pugs anymore..

gabrial heart · Dec 07, 2006, 08:53 PM // 20:53

[QUOTE=Loviatar]

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i disagree and the proof that the majority of playere disagree with the *even a negative experience* is what i want is simple.

there have been few anti hero threads and even those have a bunch of pro hero posts.

also aside from a few *any human contact no matter how bad is better than nothing* players most *as demonstrated by the people who complains own observations* people are welcoming the heroes with open arms saying

*thank you for freeing me from the jerk PUG people*

they have been given a choice and the choice seems clear

heroes FTW

i love my MM and little Barage Ranger supported by my Protective monk

I don't disagree, there are many people that play mmo's that would rather solo and have totally welcomed the heros. But, to maintain an online rpg only to focus it's course to solo play just doesn't sit right with me. I've put a lot of my attention into the guild and other players, moreso then I've PUG'd the game. I have been entertained thouroughly by our interaction, even when we fail over and over. It seems to be a waste to put so much resources into hench/hero AI so that people can avoid bad PUG's in a MMORPG. Based then on popular demand, anet could take GW offline and not loose much in player base and prolly save a ton of dough. It's not anyones fault per say, and is the reason the few of us aren't hero fans, simply because most people don't want to get in a bad PUG and go hero/hench the game instead.

The Ernada · Dec 07, 2006, 09:01 PM // 21:01

I agree with Lyra Song. Some of these people act like they've been abused by Anet and demand reparations with unreasonable demands.

And yes, I'll most likely buy the next Chapter. I do hope for more improvements and changes so that things dont get stagnant though, considering it will be the fourth installment. This is probably one of the few games that I've stuck with for so long.

gestalt · Dec 07, 2006, 09:03 PM // 21:03

Well it depends on how good chapter 4 is of course. But if it is as good as Nightfall then yes.

Guild Wars is one of the best CRPGs ever made as far as I am concerned. The class/feat design is top notch. Most online RPGs are quite mediocre RPG-wise. But Guild Wars is actually better in many regards than many offline RPGs. I don't care about all the other MMORPG crap people try to lump onto Guild Wars, half that stuff is bunk or just the perpetual whiners that are par for the course the "we are selling a service but actually sellnig you an investment *wink* *wink* so keep paying us so you can access your investment" paradigm games.

Guild Wars sells you content with a very very good RPG setting. I consider each Guild Wars purchase to have been as good of a purchase as buying Neverwinter Nights or its expansions or buying Fallout 2.

Secondly I do not burn myself out on Guild Wars I play whenever I feel like it. So I have no reason to not buy another chapter of a game I think is good. And I am not trying to substiute some persistent world or world simulation style MMO with GW and trying to make it something its not.

The Lich Ranger · Dec 07, 2006, 09:14 PM // 21:14

Of course.. it doesnt matter what they really do to Guild Wars, i will always buy it ^_^

broodijzer · Dec 07, 2006, 09:16 PM // 21:16

I'll wait some reviews

I really enjoyed all games, but I've seen it all. it's all more of the some, nothing really new. Nightfall is a cool game, but I just don't feel like playing it again with another char. most of my playtime now is in prophecies, which says enough I think.

after 12 months and 800 hours, GW has lost it's magic for me. Happens with every game doesn't it

trialist · Dec 07, 2006, 10:12 PM // 22:12

This is kinda a silly thread don't you think? What does it matter if other people will or will not buy the next chapter? Ultimately it is yourself who will decide whether you want to buy the chapter or not. If you are so disgusted with guild wars that you will never touch another chapter, will a hundred people saying that they will buy the game change your mind? Obviously not.

Similiarly, if you are so besotted with guild wars, that you will buy the next chapter even if it only contained 1 new area and nothing else, will a hundred people saying they won't buy, change your mind? Again obviously not.

You have your reasons for buying/not buying, same as everyone else but i am pretty sure whether or not you will/will not buy the next chapter has already been decided to some extent and a bunch of people saying buying, not buying isn't going to change anything.

Sakki · Dec 07, 2006, 10:15 PM // 22:15

Of course I will buy it! After playing through Nightfall its the best chapter ever! I think the next chapter would be even better

lacasner · Dec 07, 2006, 10:22 PM // 22:22

No, just because there will be some "leet" new games coming out (warhammer, lotro) and I have lost hope in the devs of this game.